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From: "roamer" <roamer@worldwidewardrive.org
To: <ephraim_schwartz@infoworld.com
Cc: <roamer@worldwidewardrive.org
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 3:46 PM
Subject: Your Article


Mr. Schwartz,
I was recently forwarded this correspondence and have followed the
discussion about your article on the Netstumbler forums.

I would like to address this particular correspondence for a moment
if I could.

Point 1.  Where does the www.worldwidewardrive.org site say that the
first one did not start this year as you state here.  I will concede that
I could have typo'd a date somewhere, but please point out where you
are getting this information so that I can correct it.  I do not believe
that I have done this however and just looked over the site to try to find
any reference to the WorldWide WarDrive in any other year, both on our
site and in media articles.  To the best of my knowledge, the first WWWD
was held between 31 August and 7 September 2002.

Point 2.  I will concede that you could derive your definition from
these definitions.  I think a discussion of what "open" means could be
undertaken, but would probably only disolve into semantics so let's
move on.

Point 3.  If you understand that there was an email address for roamer,
why didn't you contact me?  Many individuals use an online name.  I
very rarely do.  Even a cursory look around the site quickly reveals my
real name.  To call me "cryptic" seems a bit out of line to me, but hey,
my wife liked the mysterious nature of it.  I think it turned her on a
bit, so I can live with it ;-)  However, I do have to take issue with a
For Profit company being mentioned.  Where?  Are you saying that a for
profit company has a link to our site on theirs?  Where is there a link on
my site to a for profit company?  If you notice, I specifically address
the for profit issue in the FAQ:
"Can I hire you to secure my access point for me?
 No"

Please explain what you are referring to.

Point 4.  First off, again I refer to our FAQ:
"Do you "WarChalk" the APs you find?
 No. I think WarChalking is stupid."
Second, there is a difference between acknowledging a similarity and
a precursor.  Certainly one was "derived" from the other.  You just had
it backwards.  Would warchalking ever have happened were there no wardriving?
No. I will go a step further however.  Warchalking is viewed by most
individuals who WarDrive as completely silly.  I ask you to honestly
ask yourself, have YOU ever actually SEEN a warchalk mark?  The media has
latched onto wardriving for some reason, but I have never met an
individual how has actually SEEN it done or come across a building
that has been warchalked.

I will not go into the story itself as you didn't bother coming to
me to get information.  I feel that if you had done this you would perhaps
have found that your article would have been more accurate.

Thank you for your time.

Roamer (try www.worldwidewardrive.org/wwwd2/annapolis.html for my real
name if the curiosity is getting the better of you)




 - ----- Forwarded Message from ephraim_schwartz@infoworld.com -----


 1.  According to the site the first one did not start this year, but
since
 you are having two this year I give you that one.
 2. The defintions you supply agree with my interpretation, mapping
 unsecured wireless networks, i.e., "Most recently I invented Wardriving,

 while I am not the first person to go out and search for open wireless
 LANS
 (". Also -- http://www.wardriving.com/about.php : War Driving (wr dri'vin)
 v. 1 Driving around looking for unsecured wireless networks. -term
coined  by Pete Shipley
 3. Signing your name blackwave in itself is an act of hiding your
 identity.
 I sign my name you don't. I tried to get information but there was
no
 phone
 number. The only email address was for roamer. There appears to be
no
 description of who your members although a link from a for profit security
 company is provided back to your site.
 4. Whether you like it or not, there are enough similarities between
 warchalking and wardriving that the one is obviously derivative of
the
 other. Even great writers and painters admit where they get their
 inspiration from, why don't you do the same?
 All the best,
 Ephraim



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